I want to know the Anatolian Alevi view of Temporary marriage also known as Muta'a or seeghah.
This type of marriage ,especially known to exist among orthodox Shia Moslems in Iran and Iraq etc,is made for a certain time ie a year,a month,a week ,or an hour etc.It is over when the period is over.In this type of marriage ,if any of the spouses dies the other doesn't inherit from him/her.

I want to ask the following questions!
Do you Anatolian Alevis Okey such kind of marriage?
Does it prevail in the Alevi community in Turkey and abroad ?

I don't know what you are talking about.Why are you interested in Alevies with these stupid stuffs.If you have any other question which with you want to really know Alevies ,we can help you.Good day...

I don't know what you are talking about.Why are you interested in Alevies with these stupid stuffs.If you have any other question which with you want to really know Alevies ,we can help you.Good day...
If you have never heard of sigheh marriage ,then you might find some useful information in the following _ quoted from Microsoft Encarta encyclopedia

Customs of Iran

Marriage and Family


Children usually live with their parents until they marry, regardless of their age. Women marry between the ages of 16 and 25; men marry somewhat later because of military service or because they are not yet earning enough money to start a family. Most marriages are arranged by families. In the past, this meant that many young females married their cousins. More liberal attitudes have emerged in some areas regarding education, work, and freedom in selecting marriage partners. Weddings are occasions for elaborate celebrations. It is legal for a man to have up to four wives if he can provide for each equally; most men, however, choose to have only one wife. Divorce is rare.


In some cases, a couple may choose to have a temporary marriage (sigheh) that can last between a few days and 99 years. Couples might choose the sigheh as a trial marriage or because it is much less expensive than a conventional wedding. However, this type of marriage is not common, as many women oppose the practice. Under this arrangement, the woman and any children born to the marriage do not have the same rights and privileges as conventional wives and children, but the children are accepted as legitimate. Both a man and woman must consent to a sigheh, and a woman marrying for the first time must have the consent of her parents.
Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2007. © 1993-2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

I can understand from your response that you ,unlike orthodox Shia,don't okey Sigheh marriage.Yet I still need an outright NO! Because I'm going to transfer this NO to some people!

I want to know the Anatolian Alevi view of Temporary marriage also known as Muta'a or seeghah.
This type of marriage ,especially known to exist among orthodox Shia Moslems in Iran and Iraq etc,is made for a certain time ie a year,a month,a week ,or an hour etc.It is over when the period is over.In this type of marriage ,if any of the spouses dies the other doesn't inherit from him/her.

I want to ask the following questions!
Do you Anatolian Alevis Okey such kind of marriage?
Does it prevail in the Alevi community in Turkey and abroad ?


Hi Syrian,

I never heard about these kind of marriage in alevis community in turkey, these is very unusual. These is is not a tradition in our life, maybe it is sunnitic tradition, i dont know.

In Turkey we are about 30%, i`m sorry, i dont know, which per cent in abroad.

Sorry but you might be wrong or the marriage you talked about is not valid for anotolian alevies. Because i have never heard something like this. Perhaps you thought the origin of the word sigheh comes from Shia but it can not be. In addition to these i do not know someone who is orthodox Shia Moslem. Can it be possible to being both shia and orthodox?

Hi Syrian,

I never heard about these kind of marriage in alevis community in turkey, these is very unusual. These is is not a tradition in our life, maybe it is sunnitic tradition, i dont know.

In Turkey we are about 30%, i`m sorry, i dont know, which per cent in abroad.

Thank you very much for the information.
Actually this is what I thought from the first begining,but I needed a confirmation from a follower of the Alevi faith.
My best wishes and regards!

Sorry but you might be wrong or the marriage you talked about is not valid for anotolian alevies. Because i have never heard something like this. Perhaps you thought the origin of the word sigheh comes from Shia but it can not be. In addition to these i do not know someone who is orthodox Shia Moslem. Can it be possible to being both shia and orthodox?
What I meant by orthodox Shia are mainstream Shia who predominate in Iran ,Iraq,Southern Lebanon,Bahrain,and some other parts of the Islamic world ,in distinction from Alevis,Alawites,Ismailis,Zaidis and some other Islamic Shia-wise branches.

What I meant by orthodox Shia are mainstream Shia who predominate in Iran ,Iraq,Southern Lebanon,Bahrain,and some other parts of the Islamic world ,in distinction from Alevis,Alawites,Ismailis,Zaidis and some other Islamic Shia-wise branches.
Ok i understand, but there is not a kind of marriage you talked about ,in anatolia.

Ok i understand, but there is not a kind of marriage you talked about ,in anatolia.

Thank you very much for the information.
My best regards

Dear Syrian,
You don't need to compare us(Alevies) with others.We have our own speciality in Turkey.We don't waste our time with these things.If you ask question which is about Alevi life-style(not compare),it will be much better i think ;)

The life is just like a knife, without a wife.

I want to know the Anatolian Alevi view of Temporary marriage also known as Muta'a or seeghah.
This type of marriage ,especially known to exist among orthodox Shia Moslems in Iran and Iraq etc,is made for a certain time ie a year,a month,a week ,or an hour etc.It is over when the period is over.In this type of marriage ,if any of the spouses dies the other doesn't inherit from him/her.

I want to ask the following questions!
Do you Anatolian Alevis Okey such kind of marriage?
Does it prevail in the Alevi community in Turkey and abroad ?


No u can not find like this marriage in the anatoian alevi community. Temporary marriage is against human rights before women rights. Don't forget that anatolian alevi people are one of the most modern society in Turkey. And their women, their moms, their sisters, their daugthers are so important for them.

The life is just like a knife, without a wife.

OK !
And with a wife ,it is just like an auto-saw :001_rolle

anatolian alevi people are one of the most modern society in Turkey.
This is something I'm very glad to hear about.
I heard that there is also a Nusairi Alawite community in Mersin.Is it true?

This is something I'm very glad to hear about.
I heard that there is also a Nusairi Alawite community in Mersin.Is it true?

Yeah that's true, i have a lot of nusairian friends who are in Mersin and Tarsus. They are mostly located in Hatay, Adana, Mersin and Tarsus.

This is something I'm very glad to hear about.
I heard that there is also a Nusairi Alawite community in Mersin.Is it true?

Hi Syrian,
it is not an secret, that you are from Syria, is that right?
Are you an Nusairi?

How big is the Nusairi community in Syria ?

Syrian President is a Alawi (Nusairi) as i know. It's good and lots of Alawites lives in Mersin, Adana, Hatay(Antakya) in Turkey. They are same with Syrian Alawites.

Hi Syrian,
it is not an secret, that you are from Syria, is that right?
Are you an Nusairi?

How big is the Nusairi community in Syria ?
Yes I'm a Nusairi.
The Syrian Nusairi's prefer to be refered to as "Alawites".
There have never been any statistics in Syria that counted Alawites separate from other Moslems.So there are not accurate numbers.But their percentage falls roughly around 12% of the Syrian population.They comprise the absolute majority in two of the 14 Syrian provinces(Lattakia and Tartous). And some 40-50 % of other two (Homs and Hamah).
Thank you for your interest

Syrian,where have you been in Turkey before ?

Syrian,where have you been in Turkey before ?

Unfortunately,I've never been to Turkey before.

I am Sorry !

What does it mean Nusairi in turkish ?

Süryani or something like this ?

Yes I'm a Nusairi.
The Syrian Nusairi's prefer to be refered to as "Alawites".
There have never been any statistics in Syria that counted Alawites separate from other Moslems.So there are not accurate numbers.But their percentage falls roughly around 12% of the Syrian population.They comprise the absolute majority in two of the 14 Syrian provinces(Lattakia and Tartous). And some 40-50 % of other two (Homs and Hamah).
Thank you for your interest


You welcome, Syrian and many thanks for the information!

One question more please, do you have some more Information about the difference between the Alawites in Syria an Turkey?

I am Sorry !

What does it mean Nusairi in turkish ?

Süryani or something like this ?


in turkish we say that 'nusayri'

it means arab + alawi but nusairi community is completely different from anatolian alevi community. actually they are like shia community. because there are a lot of similar beliefs between shia and nusairi.

also this web-sites can be checked to find more about nusairi;
http://www.arapalevi.com
http://www.nusayri.com

in turkish we say that 'nusayri'

it means arab + alawi but nusairi community is completely different from anatolian alevi community. actually they are like shia community. because there are a lot of similar beliefs between shia and nusairi.

also this web-sites can be checked to find more about nusairi;
http://www.arapalevi.com
http://www.nusayri.com


i only wanted to know what nusairi in turkish is

i got it
thank you very much brother

As far as i know there is another kind of this marriage. For instance, a man goes to Iran and he would stay here for a long time. SO he must marry in Iran for a temporary time. And the government takes this reponsibility for you and makes you marry. Hmm that is bad. In our path there is no place for that kind of rules.

My Friend Syrian i think you misunderstand Alevis.

We dont have anything like that or anything nearest that Alevi people respect marriage .man and woman egual to each other.No one better than the other one.we dont have this kind of stupid games my friend.Go play somewhere else.

but if you really wanna know who does this kind of game marriages look into sunni people ,so you can find your answer easyl.

My Friend Syrian i think you misunderstand Alevis.

We dont have anything like that or anything nearest that Alevi people respect marriage .man and woman egual to each other.No one better than the other one.we dont have this kind of stupid games my friend.Go play somewhere else.

but if you really wanna know who does this kind of game marriages look into sunni people ,so you can find your answer easyl.
It is not that I ”misunderstand” Alevi’s. Actually I haven’t had the chance to get to know the Turkish Alevi community closely.All my information about the Alevis of Turkey is taken from the web .And I know that the web information can be very misleading.
What made me to ask this question is that we were debating in a Syrian forum over a report by “Ilaf “news network which is somehow inclined to Sunni extremism .”Ilaf “was discussing Sigheh marriage originally known to be regarded as Halal (religiously legitimate ) by orthodox Shia ,despite that it is not common in their community. “Ilaf” claimed that this type of marriage is also common among the Alevi’s of Turkey and that the Turkish Sunnis are starting to imitate them on this. Actually ,knowing that Ilaf lies very much I didn’t believe that but I needed a proof, a testimony from a follower of the Anatolian Alevi faith. Brothers and sisters here gave me what I wanted and I transferred what they said to the Arabic forum and used it to prove that ” Ilaf” was lying .

in turkish we say that 'nusayri'

it means arab + alawi but nusairi community is completely different from anatolian alevi community. actually they are like shia community. because there are a lot of similar beliefs between shia and nusairi.

also this web-sites can be checked to find more about nusairi;
http://www.arapalevi.com
http://www.nusayri.com
Actually as far as community is concerned ,the Nusairis of Syria will look much like Anatolian Alevis rather than Orthodox Shia.Of course there is a lot of similarities (and a lot of dissimilarities) between Alawites and Shia or even Sunni’s . Nusairis would not define themselves as a “ completely separate faith” as you do. They insist to be regarded “Moslems”. I don’t know anything about the Nusairi community of Turkey.

You welcome, Syrian and many thanks for the information!

One question more please, do you have some more Information about the difference between the Alawites in Syria an Turkey?

Actually, I can’t identify accurately the differences between Syrian Alawites and the Alevis of Anatolia because my information about Anatolian Alevis is very scarce and vague.I want to learn more about you ,but I’ve come to a conclusion that I need to learn Turkish to be able to do that properly .I ‘m very pleased to have known that there have been institutes teaching Turkish in nearby Lattakia .Maybe I’ll start learning Turkish next year ,and after that I’ll start to study Anatolian Alevism and Becktachism.

Actually as far as community is concerned ,the Nusairis of Syria will look much like Anatolian Alevis rather than Orthodox Shia.Of course there is a lot of similarities (and a lot of dissimilarities) between Alawites and Shia or even Sunni’s . Nusairis would not define themselves as a “ completely separate faith” as you do. They insist to be regarded “Moslems”. I don’t know anything about the Nusairi community of Turkey.

For example,we don't fast(ramazan orucu) but it is done by the nusairi people who live in Turkey as i witnessed. We just fast the '12 imam' to mourn for our casualties. We don't need to go to the mosque to pray(namaz) so we can indeed pray everywhere and at anytime for god who is accessible to us everywhere without some shape of boundaries. Maybe u've heart that we just accept djemevis(cem evleri) which means literally a house of gathering, and is a place of fundamental importance for anatolian alevi-bektashi populations and traditions. On the other hand of course there are some similarities without our name 'alevi' :)

My friend dont belive anything what sunnis people say about Alevism or Alevis people.They lie alot about us and hate anything about us,but still we dont hate anybody and we never judge their belief or anybody s belief.Every human being is free to choose what they believe.

you can ask Alevis to learn their belief ,culture and traditions and you can find the true answers from them. Dont even listen sunnis .

My Friend Syrian i think you misunderstand Alevis.

We dont have anything like that or anything nearest that Alevi people respect marriage .man and woman egual to each other.No one better than the other one.we dont have this kind of stupid games my friend.Go play somewhere else.

but if you really wanna know who does this kind of game marriages look into sunni people ,so you can find your answer easyl.

Please show a little respect for the belief of other people!

Our dear friend Syrian has asked a couple of question of pure curiousity. I was embarrassed when I saw how you cut him off! This is not the traditional Alevi way to oblige a stranger!

Dear Syrian, you asked whether we have Temporary Marriages or not. We don't. And I have never heard of, or read about using these kinds of marriages in the past.

I want to apoligize on the behalf of the other members.

Alevis of today have a "misunderstanding" and "paranoid" syndrom. They have a tendency of misunderstanding things so they think that there is a matter of insult towards Alevism and/or the Alevi community.

I want to apoligize on the behalf of the other members.




Me too!

Dear Syrian, if you have more question, please ask!

Thanks you AleviKürt!

Hi,

such kind of marriage is not allowed under the alevi people. Years ago I read an article in a magazine of temporary marriage I think it was in a state like Egypt or Jordan. For these people it was not a marriage, which they take seriously only for e.g. 3 months.

I want to apoligize on the behalf of the other members.

Alevis of today have a "misunderstanding" and "paranoid" syndrom. They have a tendency of misunderstanding things so they think that there is a matter of insult towards Alevism and/or the Alevi community.

First I'd like to apologize for taking a long time to reply. My work requires me to go far away from the civilization for many days and consequently be unable to access the web.
Thank you very much for your ardent defence.
I quite understand the feeling of you people and the fact that being discriminated by the majority can make many people somehow skeptic to strangers.
But I'm not very much a stranger after all . Belonging to another minority that has also been badly discriminated and misjudged ,just like you people have,I quite understand the skepticism of minorities.
I didn't get angry with some people here who sounded like offended.Actually I got angry with myself for not being more careful. I apologize for giving any reason for being misapprehended.
Mind not the grudge of other people.You people as we do, hold the name of Imam Ali.As the word ALEVI (Or Alawi in Arabic) means " That who belongs to Ali". Can you think of a greater honor than this.And on the other hand ,can you imagine a bigger responsibility.
Thank you all again for you interaction.

Mind not the grudge of other people.You people as we do, hold the name of Imam Ali.As the word ALEVI (Or Alawi in Arabic) means " That who belongs to Ali". Can you think of a greater honor than this.And on the other hand ,can you imagine a bigger responsibility.
Thank you all again for you interaction.
Habibi, data flow should not being in one way.
Regarding the alewitens in middle east such as Lubnan, could you please provide us some more information? So that we may compare with anatolians.