I know now that you regard Imam Ali Ibn Abi Taleb as your first Imam.
This is the case of all other Shia groups.
Yet Shia groups disagree on the rest of their Imams.
Who are the Imams from the Anatolian Alevi point of view.
Are you Twelvers (= believe in Twelve Imams) ?
Yes, we believe in Twelve Imams.
Yes, we believe in Twelve Imams.Thank you for your prompt response:
I'd like to ask another question.
Are your twelve Imams the following:
1- Ali Ibn Abi Taleb
2- Alhasan Ibn Ali (Alhasan Almujtaba)
3- Alhusein Ibn Ali (Alhusein Alshaheed(The martyr ))
4- Ali Zein Alabideen.
5- Mohammed Albaker.
6-Jaa'far Alsadek.
7- Mussa Alkazem.
8- Ali Alridha.
9- Muhammed Aljaw'wad.
10-Ali Alhadi.
11- Alhasan Alaskari.
12-Mohammed Almehdi.
Or do you otherwise believe in different Imams.If so what are their names.
and thank you again in advance.
1. İmam Hz. Ali
2. İmam Hz. Hasan
3. İmam Hz. Hüseyin
4. İmam Zeynel Abidin
5. İmam Muhammed Bakır
6. İmam Cafer-i Sadık
7. İmam Musa-i Kazım
8. İmam Rıza Ali
9. İmam Muhammed Taki
10. İmam Ali-En Naki
11. İmam Hasan-Ül Askeri
12. İmam Muhammed Mehdi
Its probably the sames persons, but with differents names.
1. İmam Hz. Ali
2. İmam Hz. Hasan
3. İmam Hz. Hüseyin
4. İmam Zeynel Abidin
5. İmam Muhammed Bakır
6. İmam Cafer-i Sadık
7. İmam Musa-i Kazım
8. İmam Rıza Ali
9. İmam Muhammed Taki
10. İmam Ali-En Naki
11. İmam Hasan-Ül Askeri
12. İmam Muhammed Mehdi
Its probably the sames persons, but with differents names.
They are the same persons.
Al-taki (The pious) is another title of Imam Muhammed Aljaw'wad
Al-Naki (The pure) is another name of Imam Ali Alhadi.
Thank you very much for your response.
AleviKürt
02.08.2007, 18:28
They are the same persons.
Al-taki (The pious) is another title of Imam Muhammed Aljaw'wad
Al-Naki (The pure) is another name of Imam Ali Alhadi.
Thank you very much for your response.
But in the Shia community of today, we are closest to the Agha Khani Ismailites. Our doctrines, rites and theology are very similar with the ones of those. If they were not Seveners, we could actually be the believers of the same belief.
But in the Shia community of today, we are closest to the Agha Khani Ismailites. Our doctrines, rites and theology are very similar with the ones of those. If they were not Seveners, we could actually be the believers of the same belief.
Actually,Agha Khani Ismailis are not "seveners".
They are more accurately to be called "fourty niners". Because their Imams count up to 49 uptill now.
For Agha Khani Ismailis, the Imam must be be present. So the Imam position has contiued in their faith starting from Imam Ali Ibn Abi Taleb and ending in the present Imam (Agha Khan Shah Karim).As far as I know,Agha Khan Shah karim is the 49th Ismaili Imam.Ismailis believe he descends from Imam Ali through Ismail Son of Jaa'far Alsadik.
AleviKürt
03.08.2007, 17:49
Actually,Agha Khani Ismailis are not "seveners".
They are more accurately to be called "fourty niners". Because their Imams count up to 49 uptill now.
For Agha Khani Ismailis, the Imam must be be present. So the Imam position has contiued in their faith starting from Imam Ali Ibn Abi Taleb and ending in the present Imam (Agha Khan Shah Karim).As far as I know,Agha Khan Shah karim is the 49th Ismaili Imam.Ismailis believe he descends from Imam Ali through Ismail Son of Jaa'far Alsadik.
Yes you are right, but they still ought to be classified under the "Sevener" category, because of their rejection of Imam Musa al-Kazim.
As an Alevi I pay lot of respect to Agha Khan Shah Karim, and I also follow the news about him whenever I can.
He is a very interesting person that I would be honoured to meet.