Orijinalini görmek için tıklayınız : Belgians are Turks (says Turk academic)


AleviKürt
11.03.2008, 00:01
Belgians are Turks, says Turk academic



GAZİANTEP – Anatolia News Agency

The Belgian people are descended from a part of the Oğuz Turks tribe who settled in the region thousands of years ago, said the head of Gaziantep University's Department of Medical Biology yesterday.
In a move that is destined to bring Belgians and Turks together as brothers, Professor Ahmet Arslan said that when the Selçuk part of the Oğuz tribe formed a state in Central Asia, their capital was called Genk, having the same name as the city of Genk in Belgium.

He also said the symbol of Genk Municipality was a double headed eagle, and added as his conclusive proof, “In the Selçuk tribe, the same symbol was used. One head symbolized Interior Oğuz while the other Exterior Oğuz.”

Referring to the city of Genk in Belgium, Arslan said: “There are many dark haired, light skinned people there. This is the basic characteristic of the Oğuz tribe.”

Arslan said Kurds were also a branch of the Oğuz Tribe. “I think the Kazıkurtları seen as part of the Oğuz tribe are linked to Kurds. Kurds appear to be from the Exterior Oğuz,” said the academic.The molecular genetic studies the department had conducted showed the main migration route from Central Asia followed the north west and west of the Caucasus Mountains, Arslan said. He said there were close blood ties between Europeans and Turks as a result of these tribal migrations.



Source:
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=93059



MY COMMENTS:
This is an extraordinary good example on the selective history writing of turkish "scientists". In Turkey, these "scientific studies" are looked upon very seriously, while they are made fun of(!) in Europe.

If you ask me, this is the same thing going on with Alevism. Turkish "scientists" likes to find ties in history where they want to see them, even though no ties exist. It's just a pitty, that the average Turkish citizen isn't capable of seeing what's going on.

KörogluErsoy
15.03.2008, 09:15
If you ask me, this is the same thing going on with Alevism. Turkish "scientists" likes to find ties in history where they want to see them, even though no ties exist. It's just a pitty, that the average Turkish citizen isn't capable of seeing what's going on.
And what about the international scientists who tell us Alevism comes from the Turkoman tribes? Are they working for nationalist turkish interrests, AleviKürt?

AleviKürt
15.03.2008, 20:16
And what about the international scientists who tell us Alevism comes from the Turkoman tribes? Are they working for nationalist turkish interrests, AleviKürt?


Dear brother.

Alevism has definitely clear bonds with Turkish (Turcoman and Kurdish) tribes. This is quite clear in historical sources (e.g. the Ottoman archives).

But beyond this fact, it is really hard to say anything factual about the history of Alevism. We lack sources about historical Alevism.

When I'm criticizing Turkish "scientists", I'm also criticizing the KURDISH ones. This has evolved into a Turkoman/Kurdish tribal war, trying to give Alevism an ethnic identity.

Paşalıoğlu
17.03.2008, 17:03
One of the general definition of Alevism assumes that Alevism is an heterodox religous belief system. This means that Alevism has got many elements or constructs from a lot of religons and belief systems, and therefore it is irrational to say that antecedents of Alevism can be traced in a specific ethnic group. Alevism is an aggregate of a lot of cultures.

AleviKürt
17.03.2008, 19:00
One of the general definition of Alevism assumes that Alevism is an heterodox religous belief system. This means that Alevism has got many elements or constructs from a lot of religons and belief systems, and therefore it is irrational to say that antecedents of Alevism can be traced in a specific ethnic group. Alevism is an aggregate of a lot of cultures.

Actually, the term "Heterodoxy" is only used "to describe a subject as "characterized by departure from accepted beliefs or standards" (status quo)."

Almost every religion has orthodox and heterodox sub-beliefs. No one says that the orthodox are the real followers of a religion.