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munzur_hozat
21.07.2005, 20:26
WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO DIE Any pain to be suffered comes first. Instinctively you fight to live.
That is automatic.
It is inconceivable to the conscious mind that any other reality could possibly exist beside the earth-world of matter bounded by time and space. We are used to it. We have been trained since birth to live and thrive in it. We know ourselves to be ourselves by the external stimuli we receive. Life tells us who we are and we accept its telling. That, too, is automatic, and to be expected.
Your body goes limp. Your heart stops. No more air flows in or out.
You lose sight, feeling, and movement – although the ability to hear goes last. Identity ceases. The "you" that you once were becomes only a memory.
There is no pain at the moment of death.
Only peaceful silence. . . calm. . . quiet.
But you still exist.
It is easy not to breathe. In fact, it is easier, more comfortable, and infinitely more natural not to breathe than to breathe. The biggest surprise for most people in dying is to realize that dying does not end life. Whether darkness or light comes next, or some kind of event, be it positive, negative, or somewhere in-between, expected or unexpected, the biggest surprise of all is to realize you are still you. You can still think, you can still remember, you can still see, hear, move, reason, wonder, feel, question, and tell jokes – if you wish.
You are still alive, very much alive. Actually, you're more alive after death than at any time since you were last born. Only the way of all this is different; different because you no longer wear a dense body to filter and amplify the various sensations you had once regarded as the only valid indicators of what constitutes life. You had always been taught one has to wear a body to live.
If you expect to die when you die you will be disappointed.
The only thing dying does is help you release, slough off, and discard the "jacket" you once wore (more commonly referred to as a body).
When you die you lose your body.
That's all there is to it.
Nothing else is lost.

You are not your body. It is just something you wear for a while, because living in the earth-plane is infinitely more meaningful and more involved if you are encased in its trappings and subject to its rules.

WHAT DEATH IS

There is a step-up of energy at the moment of death, an increase in speed as if you are suddenly vibrating faster than before.
Using radio as an analogy, this speed-up is comparable to having lived all your life at a certain radio frequency when all of a sudden someone or something comes along and flips the dial. That flip shifts you to another, higher wavelength. The original frequency where you once existed is still there. It did not change. Everything is still just the same as it was. Only you changed, only you speeded up to allow entry into the next radio frequency on the dial.
As is true with all radios and radio stations, there can be bleed-overs or distortions of transmission signals due to interference patterns. These can allow or force frequencies to coexist or commingle for indefinite periods of time. Normally, most shifts up the dial are fast and efficient; but, occasionally, one can run into interference, perhaps from a strong emotion, a sense of duty, or a need to fulfill a vow, or keep a promise. This interference could allow coexistence of frequencies for a few seconds, days, or even years (perhaps explaining hauntings); but, sooner or later, eventually, every given vibrational frequency will seek out or be nudged to where it belongs.
You fit your particular spot on the dial by your speed of vibration. You cannot coexist forever where you do not belong.
Who can say how many spots there are on the dial or how many frequencies there are to inhabit. No one knows.
You shift frequencies in dying. You switch over to life on another wave-length. You are still a spot on the dial but you move up or down a notch or two.
You don't die when you die. You shift your consciousness and speed of vibration.
That's all death is. . . a shift.

Canim Ya Ali
02.12.2005, 01:57
I feel in your text a kind of undifinition paradox of death even if you wrote a lot about what ít´s feel to ... or what it is ... but we don´t know how it feels like and it is not deffined so you say The biggest surprise for most people in dying is to realize that dying does not end life. Whether darkness or light comes next ... and someone or something comes along and flips the dial. That flip shifts you to another, higher wavelength. The original frequency where you once existed is still there. It did not change. Everything is still just the same as it was. Only you changed, only you speeded up to allow entry into the next radio frequency on the dial. but how could you say that it goes exsactly this way ... perhaps there is nothing or maybe something else .. and you don´t have any scientific sorces in your text ... meybe it´s just what you think about life and death but you don´t say it perhaps could be you say it is and that´s not the same ... maybe I´m wrong maybe not ... could you please descripe your idee in a more scientific way or please say why you have these opininions about it ... thank you for your text and I´m sorry but my english is more than terrible so - sorry.

Or is it a philosophic way to descripe ??? hmmmm.

I´m looking to hearing from you soon , so wirte ...
:3D_NG (25


Irrgentwie hab ich´s mit Sprachen ich weiß auch nicht warum, schade ...

izmirksk
05.12.2005, 01:06
learn,but learn from the learned.
he could be right,but I don't think he is.:36_1_48:

Canan
05.12.2005, 01:23
in my eyes this description is very romantisized. influenced largely by the hollywood culture. it seems like something from a film.

i've come across such descriptions before in case studies of people who claim to have had a near death experience (NDE). there are some scientific evidence to support the above descriprion, in the sense that people who experience the above state do tend to experience such thing when their body is under extreme stress such as extreme physical pain, heart attacks, during surgery etc etc. it is unclear however whether these people really do come close to death or whether their active brain links their previous experinces of what death is like with the stressful situaition they are in, leading to an out of body experience (as described above).

in people who experience such NDE there also is some recording of irregular brain activity.
in my eyes such experience is real but it is unclear whether it represents real death or just the work of the human mind.

izmirksk
05.12.2005, 21:33
in my opinion,
until we are intelligent as to its law and varieties , the main facts of human life will remain unintelligible

Bir Zeynep
06.12.2005, 00:15
Is there anybody who has experienced death and has come back to us to report what it feels like and what happens if we die??? Very odd..... I don't believe in it.

Canan
06.12.2005, 00:30
Is there anybody who has experienced death and has come back to us to report what it feels like and what happens if we die??? Very odd..... I don't believe in it.

there are people who claim to have experienced this
*1 out of 3 people who come close to death report to have experienced this phenomena (support for this comes from scientists such as Sabom 1982, and Ring 1984)

*5% of americans report to have experienced this.

and there is some evidence to support them.

for example
in one form of heart surgery, in order to preform the procedure the patient is tied up to a machine that keeps the organs functioning but the body is practically dead. whilst the body is tied to the machine it does not breath, heart does not beat and the brain is inactive. (I dont no much about the details of the actual surgery). however. in this procedure most claim that the human body dies and than is bought back to life. almost all people who under go this procedure report to have experinced the feelings described above. there is no way that the people could of imagined or dreamt this as the brain was not active.

i did a presentation on this topic couple of mounts back and studies a large quantity of research in the area. my conclusion is that this experience does happen but not as often as claimed. some do dream this up. but it does not mean thatit does not happen.

shadowpuppet
02.02.2006, 09:35
I may have mentioned this before but the only thing I can really say about this is that in physics.. energy cannot be created or destroyed. Only moved or changed.

What is now...has always been and will always be. It may grow ..it may shrink... it may evolve and/or inhabit a completely different space ...but it is of the same essence as it ever was.

They say that everything on this planet originally took form in the mass of a star ..and, when the sun burns out and the earth is no more... will return to this state once again.